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	<title>Comments on: Counsel of Poverty &#8211; On the Perfection of the Spiritual Life VII</title>
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		<title>By: Joseph Bolin</title>
		<link>http://www.pathsoflove.com/blog/2009/07/counsel-of-poverty-perfection-of-the-spiritual-life-vii/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Bolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two options &quot;simplicity&quot;, and &quot;giving up everything&quot; are of course extremes, with many middle possibilities. In most cases what one should aim for is in fact somewhere in this middle area.

On the one hand, a married person should not give up everything and &lt;em&gt;force&lt;/em&gt; his or her spouse and children to have nothing. If &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; spouses desire it, and if it does not impair the sound and healthy upbringing and education of their children (spouses may not choose a kind of poverty that makes their children malnourished, or keeps them from any education), nor impose an undue burden on others around them, there is no particular degree of poverty that is forbidden them. But in most cases a proper familial and social life would not work without the family/spouses owning property.

On the other hand, as St. John says, &quot;If any one has the world&#039;s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God&#039;s love abide in him?&quot; (1 John 3:17). A &quot;simple&quot; way of life may not correspond to the needs of others. Thomas Dubay, in his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898709210?ie=UTF8amp;tag=pathsoflove-20amp;link_code=as3amp;camp=211189amp;creative=373489amp;creativeASIN=0898709210&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy Are You Poor: The Simple Life and Spiritual Freedom&lt;/a&gt; argues that &quot;simplicity&quot; or merely the &quot;spirit of poverty&quot; is generally not enough, either for religious or for lay persons, married or unmarried. Persons or communities who easily have sufficient resources are called not only to a spiritual practice of poverty, but to a real practice of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two options "simplicity", and "giving up everything" are of course extremes, with many middle possibilities. In most cases what one should aim for is in fact somewhere in this middle area.</p>
<p>On the one hand, a married person should not give up everything and <em>force</em> his or her spouse and children to have nothing. If <em>both</em> spouses desire it, and if it does not impair the sound and healthy upbringing and education of their children (spouses may not choose a kind of poverty that makes their children malnourished, or keeps them from any education), nor impose an undue burden on others around them, there is no particular degree of poverty that is forbidden them. But in most cases a proper familial and social life would not work without the family/spouses owning property.</p>
<p>On the other hand, as St. John says, "If any one has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?" (1 John 3:17). A "simple" way of life may not correspond to the needs of others. Thomas Dubay, in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898709210?ie=UTF8amp;tag=pathsoflove-20amp;link_code=as3amp;camp=211189amp;creative=373489amp;creativeASIN=0898709210" rel="nofollow">Happy Are You Poor: The Simple Life and Spiritual Freedom</a> argues that "simplicity" or merely the "spirit of poverty" is generally not enough, either for religious or for lay persons, married or unmarried. Persons or communities who easily have sufficient resources are called not only to a spiritual practice of poverty, but to a real practice of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.pathsoflove.com/blog/2009/07/counsel-of-poverty-perfection-of-the-spiritual-life-vii/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very interested in this issue. How can a married person with children live poverty for instance? I feel that it is extremely necessary for the life of perfection but what degree of poverty can married people choose for Christ? Is simplicity enough or must a married person give everything and force spouse and children to have nothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very interested in this issue. How can a married person with children live poverty for instance? I feel that it is extremely necessary for the life of perfection but what degree of poverty can married people choose for Christ? Is simplicity enough or must a married person give everything and force spouse and children to have nothing?</p>
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